royus77
07-07 08:50 AM
The only thing we could do guys , is to get a lot of media attention , make the whole world know about our problems....
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
Please go back .Why wait for the change in law .No one is stopping you . Dont discourage
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
Please go back .Why wait for the change in law .No one is stopping you . Dont discourage
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desi3933
06-28 11:37 AM
However if someone takes the company to court based on "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986" vs hiring an H1B, how can the company legally defend itself against this law ?
on what basis?
You need to show legal ground to file the case. First, read I-9 form.
From legal point of view, Employer has no legal obligation to file H-1B for any job applicant. Infact, employer can chose not to file H-1B extension for current employee.
Why don't put your question in attorney forum?
.
on what basis?
You need to show legal ground to file the case. First, read I-9 form.
From legal point of view, Employer has no legal obligation to file H-1B for any job applicant. Infact, employer can chose not to file H-1B extension for current employee.
Why don't put your question in attorney forum?
.
jgh_res
12-17 07:44 AM
Are you trying to be a legal immigrant????? GC is not your right and you are here by choice.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
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12-16 12:50 PM
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07-21 05:41 PM
Received by USCIS on 06/04/08
Approved on 7/14/2008
Card received on 7/18/2008
Got 2 yr renewal.
Btw - why are lot of members mentioning FP related information under EAD? I did my FP last Oct. Should I be expecting second FP as a result of EAD renewal application. I am missing some thing basic here. Any pointers?
Approved on 7/14/2008
Card received on 7/18/2008
Got 2 yr renewal.
Btw - why are lot of members mentioning FP related information under EAD? I did my FP last Oct. Should I be expecting second FP as a result of EAD renewal application. I am missing some thing basic here. Any pointers?
feedfront
08-26 03:29 PM
Not sure if I got your question... .
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
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conchshell
02-26 12:53 PM
Last year we started a major membership campaign in Colorado. People kind of agreed that IV is the appropriate platform for this crusade, and they were willing to contribute money, but only if they see required transparency in the IV organization. Members of the state chapters have so far not heard about how the contributed money is spent, and what kind of lobbying took place in Washington.
Is good to hear the cheers of "IV is our only hope", and yes in one way it is, but unless we bring required reform to IV, the status quo will maintain. That is several years since its inception : limited number of paying members, half hearted participation in various campaigns, and inactive state chapters.
Is good to hear the cheers of "IV is our only hope", and yes in one way it is, but unless we bring required reform to IV, the status quo will maintain. That is several years since its inception : limited number of paying members, half hearted participation in various campaigns, and inactive state chapters.
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immigrationmatters30
07-22 08:17 AM
Even If this happens, it will not help EB3I because then the spill over will be shared by all countries in EB3. Then there will not be any option left both for EB2 and EB3. Now atleast there is an option for some EB3 folks to move to EB2.
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samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-18 08:53 AM
I am waiting ..
I am waiting.. and few more friends none of us got receipt. our checks got cashed on last Monday.
I am waiting.. and few more friends none of us got receipt. our checks got cashed on last Monday.
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11-21 11:32 AM
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chmur
07-28 12:23 AM
I never said we should keep quiet about it. I was only responding to an earlier post reagarding 'EB2 - elitist protectionism'. Just like you are within your rights to look after yourself, so is everybody else - welcome to capitalism. I have always maintained that going down the road of EB3 versus EB2 is detrimental to this group. Your post only adds to this.
In anycase I dont know how splitting visas equally between EB2I and EB3I can pass the smell test even if DOS were to implement it - there is a categorization that is already established AFTER the initial handout is made on an equal basis. The split completely negates it - at least to the extent any EB2ROW spill over is directed to EB3 when EB2 I and C are already retrogressed.
Lets not swear by capitalism but selectively resort to socialism.
Yes, you quoted Visa bulletin which says DOS "may" not to adhere to country limits in distributing spill overs .
is there anything that says that distribution further has to be done in a particular way ??
I have not found any . Probably there is none otherwise DOS could not have gotten away with "vertical" and "Horizontal" flip flops.
In that light every comment about EB*->EB? , failing smell tests are speculative at best.
You are yet to respond to my question of why EB3-I and recapture lobbying efforts cannot proceed simultaneously and How EB3-I lobbying undermines recapture effort.
In anycase I dont know how splitting visas equally between EB2I and EB3I can pass the smell test even if DOS were to implement it - there is a categorization that is already established AFTER the initial handout is made on an equal basis. The split completely negates it - at least to the extent any EB2ROW spill over is directed to EB3 when EB2 I and C are already retrogressed.
Lets not swear by capitalism but selectively resort to socialism.
Yes, you quoted Visa bulletin which says DOS "may" not to adhere to country limits in distributing spill overs .
is there anything that says that distribution further has to be done in a particular way ??
I have not found any . Probably there is none otherwise DOS could not have gotten away with "vertical" and "Horizontal" flip flops.
In that light every comment about EB*->EB? , failing smell tests are speculative at best.
You are yet to respond to my question of why EB3-I and recapture lobbying efforts cannot proceed simultaneously and How EB3-I lobbying undermines recapture effort.
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08-30 12:07 PM
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gcForV
07-09 04:18 PM
This website has links of most of the talk show hosts. Right click on the individual email links to get address.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
E-Mail or Fax YOUR Message to Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and State Legislatures!
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
E-Mail or Fax YOUR Message to Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and State Legislatures!
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
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05-04 12:13 PM
I am having trouble attaching it here and will get back to it soon
RAGZ4u,
Can u create a PDF or something similar and post it.Thanks
RAGZ4u,
Can u create a PDF or something similar and post it.Thanks
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05-02 10:45 AM
The �SKIL� Bill
Short Title: Securing Knowledge Innovation and Leadership (SKIL)
Title I � Access to High Skilled Foreign Workers
Section 101. H-1B Visa Holders
Exempts professionals who have earned advanced degrees (e.g. Master�s degree or higher) from accredited United States universities and those who have been awarded a medical specialty certification based on post-doctoral training and experience in the United States from the annual H-1B cap.
Section 102. Market-Based Visa Limits
Raises the H-1B (specialty occupation) cap from 65,000 to 115,000 and creates a flexible system that adjusts with the market.
Title II � Retaining Foreign Workers Educated in the United States
Section 201. United States Educated Immigrants.
Exempts U.S.-educated professionals with advanced degrees and those who have been awarded a medical specialty certification based on post-doctoral training and experience in the United States from the annual green card (i.e. immigrant visa) cap.
Exempts professionals who have earned advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering or math, and who worked in the U.S. for at least three years in a related field, from the immigrant visa cap.
Exempts spouse and minor children of professionals from the employment-based cap. Under current law, only about fifty percent of employment-based visas go to actual workers.
Section 202. Immigrant Visa Backlog Reduction.
Raises the immigrant visa (i.e. green card) cap from 140,000 to 290,000 and allows unused visas to fall forward annually.
Exempts aliens of extraordinary ability, and outstanding researchers and professors from the annual green card limit.
Section 203. Student Visa Reform.
Many employers seek to hire U.S. educated students full-time upon graduation, and this change would enable the employer to start the green card process while the foreign worker is on a student visa (F-1) during Optional Practical Training (OPT). Codifies OPT; which will allow U.S. educated foreign students to work in their field for up to two years after graduation.
Section 204. L-1 Visa Holders Subject to Visa Backlog.
Allows an extension of an L-1 (intracompany transfer) visa beyond the fifth or seventh year if the individual has a green card application pending and is simply caught in the green card backlog. This extension is currently allowed for H-1B (specialty occupation) visa holders, but not for L-1 visa holders.
Section 205. Retaining Workers Subject to Green Card Backlog.
Allows foreign workers who have started the green card process, but who are subject to green card backlogs, to pay a $500.00 supplemental fee to file an application to adjust status. This change would enable foreign workers to remain in the U.S. until the green card becomes available.
Title III � Business Facilitation Through Immigration Reform
Section 301. Streamlining the Adjudication Process for Established Employers.
Requires the creation of a pre-certification program that streamlines the adjudication process, and reduces paperwork burdens, for employers who file multiple applications and who have no history of fraud or abuse. Pre-certification would allow those employers to file a petition on a separate review track and not submit repetitive organizational documentation.
Section 302. Providing Premium Processing of Employment-Based Visa Petitions.
Requires USCIS to allow employers to file a �premium processing� fee for expedited adjudication of employment-based immigrant petitions, as well as for administrative appeals of any decision on an employment-based immigrant petition.
Section 303. Eliminating Procedural Delays in Labor Certification Process.
Requires the Department of Labor to process all applications filed prior to the electronic PERM system within six months of enactment. Clarifies the Department of Labor�s process in providing prevailing wage determinations and requires the Department of Labor to establish a website to post open job orders.
Title IV. Miscellaneous
Section 401. Completion of Background and Security Checks.
Requires that no immigration application may be approved until the appropriate background and security checks are completed and any allegations of fraud have been resolved.
Section 402. Visa Revalidation.
Allows temporary workers who have not violated their status to renew their visa from within the United States.
Section 403. Severability.
Clarifies that if any part of this act is determined to be invalid it will have no effect on the remainder of the provisions.
Short Title: Securing Knowledge Innovation and Leadership (SKIL)
Title I � Access to High Skilled Foreign Workers
Section 101. H-1B Visa Holders
Exempts professionals who have earned advanced degrees (e.g. Master�s degree or higher) from accredited United States universities and those who have been awarded a medical specialty certification based on post-doctoral training and experience in the United States from the annual H-1B cap.
Section 102. Market-Based Visa Limits
Raises the H-1B (specialty occupation) cap from 65,000 to 115,000 and creates a flexible system that adjusts with the market.
Title II � Retaining Foreign Workers Educated in the United States
Section 201. United States Educated Immigrants.
Exempts U.S.-educated professionals with advanced degrees and those who have been awarded a medical specialty certification based on post-doctoral training and experience in the United States from the annual green card (i.e. immigrant visa) cap.
Exempts professionals who have earned advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering or math, and who worked in the U.S. for at least three years in a related field, from the immigrant visa cap.
Exempts spouse and minor children of professionals from the employment-based cap. Under current law, only about fifty percent of employment-based visas go to actual workers.
Section 202. Immigrant Visa Backlog Reduction.
Raises the immigrant visa (i.e. green card) cap from 140,000 to 290,000 and allows unused visas to fall forward annually.
Exempts aliens of extraordinary ability, and outstanding researchers and professors from the annual green card limit.
Section 203. Student Visa Reform.
Many employers seek to hire U.S. educated students full-time upon graduation, and this change would enable the employer to start the green card process while the foreign worker is on a student visa (F-1) during Optional Practical Training (OPT). Codifies OPT; which will allow U.S. educated foreign students to work in their field for up to two years after graduation.
Section 204. L-1 Visa Holders Subject to Visa Backlog.
Allows an extension of an L-1 (intracompany transfer) visa beyond the fifth or seventh year if the individual has a green card application pending and is simply caught in the green card backlog. This extension is currently allowed for H-1B (specialty occupation) visa holders, but not for L-1 visa holders.
Section 205. Retaining Workers Subject to Green Card Backlog.
Allows foreign workers who have started the green card process, but who are subject to green card backlogs, to pay a $500.00 supplemental fee to file an application to adjust status. This change would enable foreign workers to remain in the U.S. until the green card becomes available.
Title III � Business Facilitation Through Immigration Reform
Section 301. Streamlining the Adjudication Process for Established Employers.
Requires the creation of a pre-certification program that streamlines the adjudication process, and reduces paperwork burdens, for employers who file multiple applications and who have no history of fraud or abuse. Pre-certification would allow those employers to file a petition on a separate review track and not submit repetitive organizational documentation.
Section 302. Providing Premium Processing of Employment-Based Visa Petitions.
Requires USCIS to allow employers to file a �premium processing� fee for expedited adjudication of employment-based immigrant petitions, as well as for administrative appeals of any decision on an employment-based immigrant petition.
Section 303. Eliminating Procedural Delays in Labor Certification Process.
Requires the Department of Labor to process all applications filed prior to the electronic PERM system within six months of enactment. Clarifies the Department of Labor�s process in providing prevailing wage determinations and requires the Department of Labor to establish a website to post open job orders.
Title IV. Miscellaneous
Section 401. Completion of Background and Security Checks.
Requires that no immigration application may be approved until the appropriate background and security checks are completed and any allegations of fraud have been resolved.
Section 402. Visa Revalidation.
Allows temporary workers who have not violated their status to renew their visa from within the United States.
Section 403. Severability.
Clarifies that if any part of this act is determined to be invalid it will have no effect on the remainder of the provisions.
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08-25 06:38 AM
The Last updated date for my I -485 application is showing as 8/24/2010 now.
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05-01 09:41 AM
Yes, Any idea on when this bill come on the floor?
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04-24 01:31 PM
Folks, it is time for the H1B community to grow up. Business is business. I am not a blood sucking deshi firm, or a silent partner. On the contrary, I happen to be a trained mediator, published author on conflict management and professional in strategy/organizations. My view is pretty simple: mathematical 'tit for tat' doesnt take you far. Build, nourish and manage relationships. Money and math are secondary. Its time to grow up.
MR. Obviously
Quite right, I know you meant that managing relationships has to be from both the sides, but with most desi employers it has become a one way street. Even with all the effort to manage relationship, the employee still gets scr*** and this needs to stop.
MR. Obviously
Quite right, I know you meant that managing relationships has to be from both the sides, but with most desi employers it has become a one way street. Even with all the effort to manage relationship, the employee still gets scr*** and this needs to stop.
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gandu_no1
07-11 03:15 PM
I agree absolutely. Living right here near DC and being a victim of the present USCIS mess, I still did not know about this campaign until a family member from India mentioned about it after reading it in the local newspaper.
I quickly signed up on this site and sent the flowers to be delivered yesterday.
I think the biggest 'thank you' belongs to Chidananda Rajghatta of the Times of India as far as the media is concerned. After all, it was his report in TOI that lit a fire under this campaign!
I quickly signed up on this site and sent the flowers to be delivered yesterday.
I think the biggest 'thank you' belongs to Chidananda Rajghatta of the Times of India as far as the media is concerned. After all, it was his report in TOI that lit a fire under this campaign!
xbeartai
05-23 01:52 PM
Link:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists
/thomaslfriedman/index.html?inline=nyt-per
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: May 23, 2007
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry.
I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute,
one of America's great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row
seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of
them Ph.D. students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was
handed their doctorate - in biotechnology, computing, physics and
engineering - by the school's president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly
minted Ph.D.'s at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign
names kept coming - "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" - I thought that
the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese,
until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what
President Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science
education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don't get me wrong. I'm proud that our country continues to build
universities and a culture of learning that attract the world's best minds.
My complaint - why I also wanted to cry - was that there wasn't someone from
the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to President
Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born
Ph.D.'s. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and
innovation here. If we can't educate enough of our own kids to compete at
this level, we'd better make sure we can import someone else's, otherwise we
will not maintain our standard of living.
It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders - as wide as
possible - to attract and keep the world's first-round intellectual draft
choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools
and the key differentiator is human talent. I'm serious. I think any foreign
student who gets a Ph.D. in our country - in any subject - should be
offered citizenship. I want them. The idea
that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with
Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies
that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-
based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here.
Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we
're not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more
companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace.
Silicon Valley is living proof of that - and where innovation happens
matters. It's still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can't keep being stupid about these things. You can't have a world
where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools,
research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go
back to their home countries to start companies - without it eventually
impacting our standard of living - especially when we're also slipping
behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen
from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal
Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential
campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our
digital deficits and divides. (See: http://www.techpresident.com <http://www.techpresident.com>.) Mr. Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child
Connected."
Here's the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost
all the oxygen in this country - oxygen needed to discuss seriously
education, health care, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett
Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book "
The First Campaign," which deals with this theme. So right now, it's mostly
governors talking about these issues, noted Mr. Graff, but there is only so
much they can do without Washington being focused and leading.
Which is why we've got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the
quickest, least bad way possible - otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and
America. It's coming down to that choice.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists
/thomaslfriedman/index.html?inline=nyt-per
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: May 23, 2007
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry.
I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute,
one of America's great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row
seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of
them Ph.D. students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was
handed their doctorate - in biotechnology, computing, physics and
engineering - by the school's president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly
minted Ph.D.'s at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign
names kept coming - "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" - I thought that
the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese,
until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what
President Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science
education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don't get me wrong. I'm proud that our country continues to build
universities and a culture of learning that attract the world's best minds.
My complaint - why I also wanted to cry - was that there wasn't someone from
the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to President
Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born
Ph.D.'s. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and
innovation here. If we can't educate enough of our own kids to compete at
this level, we'd better make sure we can import someone else's, otherwise we
will not maintain our standard of living.
It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders - as wide as
possible - to attract and keep the world's first-round intellectual draft
choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools
and the key differentiator is human talent. I'm serious. I think any foreign
student who gets a Ph.D. in our country - in any subject - should be
offered citizenship. I want them. The idea
that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with
Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies
that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-
based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here.
Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we
're not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more
companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace.
Silicon Valley is living proof of that - and where innovation happens
matters. It's still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can't keep being stupid about these things. You can't have a world
where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools,
research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go
back to their home countries to start companies - without it eventually
impacting our standard of living - especially when we're also slipping
behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen
from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal
Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential
campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our
digital deficits and divides. (See: http://www.techpresident.com <http://www.techpresident.com>.) Mr. Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child
Connected."
Here's the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost
all the oxygen in this country - oxygen needed to discuss seriously
education, health care, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett
Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book "
The First Campaign," which deals with this theme. So right now, it's mostly
governors talking about these issues, noted Mr. Graff, but there is only so
much they can do without Washington being focused and leading.
Which is why we've got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the
quickest, least bad way possible - otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and
America. It's coming down to that choice.
ashshah
12-16 03:55 PM
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Another recommendation is if possible do a landmark forum course. Its a 3 day course but definitely worth doing especially it may help to handle depression of any kind. Its based on a technology and not everyone gets the same benefits. But it does provide you good insights and everyone gets benefited in some way or the other.
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Another recommendation is if possible do a landmark forum course. Its a 3 day course but definitely worth doing especially it may help to handle depression of any kind. Its based on a technology and not everyone gets the same benefits. But it does provide you good insights and everyone gets benefited in some way or the other.
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