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english_august
07-11 01:18 AM
Is this rally still on? On 14th? Then please update the first post on this thread which still says July 7th - it is confusing.
Also, considering that there are only 4 more days to the rally if it is on 14th, we need considerably more publicity in the media and on blogs on this.
This rally will be a watershed event because as far as I know, this would be the first of its kind by skilled, legal immigrants and it should get the media attention that it deserves.
Also, considering that there are only 4 more days to the rally if it is on 14th, we need considerably more publicity in the media and on blogs on this.
This rally will be a watershed event because as far as I know, this would be the first of its kind by skilled, legal immigrants and it should get the media attention that it deserves.
dontcareanymore
07-28 01:37 AM
Sorry if I am dashing the hopes of some and sound too pessimistic , but I think I have the right to be one , and this is what I feel where we are headed:
1) Historically EB2 and Eb1 has the advantage over EB3. You may argue on the merits but it is the fact. It may be news for the folks who got in to the queue recently , but that is generally a trend except recent past. So there is no use in getting mad that EB2 are GC before EB3. But at the same time I don't accept arguments from some EB2s that EB2s are smarter than EB3 and have the right to get GC at least 6 years ahead of EB3. Like every thing else in this unfair process , you are at the right place at the right time and you get it. Be happy for that. If you can't understand the frustration of some Eb3s, the minimum you could do is not show off. If some one has been around for a while and seen this process they would not be either surprised or jealous about EB2's current status.
2) It is sad to see this infighting. We are in a GC quagmire and there are no better solutions and most people are really frustrated and you can see that in the discussions. I see that the interest from active people in waning and probably justifiably so. You can see a pattern of decreasing interest from the peek (Jul last ear) . Most people are happy with EAD and Ac21 and some of the active folks got their GCs. Some of the most vocal, visible people on the forum has changed their tune soon after the last bulletin , just because their PD is current. It changes from "we all are in this together" to "You are on your own". Good luck to people in the queue to convince your brothers to be with you , if and when you walk the streets of DC :) :). They are at the doorsteps of being PR and are in a different group. If some of the posts are any indication, They think they are entitled to look down on you.
3) There was a post a while ago asking whether the core group is wasting their time. Most of the time I agree. Most of us here are just for our selfish sake , despite what most preach about cause , justice , fairness , principles etc. Some to go the extent of comparing this with great fights in their home country. It is far from it. Just one air GYGC.
4) we started loosing the unity the moment we forgot our main objective. "All immigrants are in this together" and this is not country specific. Instead of fighting together with others to capture lost visa numbers and exempt family members from the quota , we tried to snatch some numbers from our friends (ROW).(Not that I believe we could get the visa recapture this year) Now we are further divided between EB2I and EB3I with the same argument. I can give you another example of selfishness. Now that these guys have EAD and AP, they don't want concurrent filing , don't want premium processing for 140. Don't want any one else interfile with EB2. Just process my application without an interruption :):). I don't care if others done even get their H1 extended or get EAD. Where we are headed with this approach ?
What do we have in store :
Just hope the stars align for you and one day you will get yours. It will happen even if it takes 10 years. Live with it because you chose it.
Don't loose sleep over some one else getting GC ahead of you. Try to live your life.
Do what ever you can to better the situation. It depends on what you believe.
If you have 10 people with you in the struggle , don't count on them to be with you tomorrow.
if you are pissed off about some thing, went it by non-violent method. feels good. Blog , watch a comedy movie or do some thing that relaxes you.
Don't be surprised if your hopes are dashed.
At the end of the day getting GC is not indicative of your education, experience,capacity , knowledge , wisdom , usefulness to this country or the other way round. "GC is just what you have, not what you are ".
I must have ruffled some feathers. If your feathers are ruffled , please see my handle. :):)
1) Historically EB2 and Eb1 has the advantage over EB3. You may argue on the merits but it is the fact. It may be news for the folks who got in to the queue recently , but that is generally a trend except recent past. So there is no use in getting mad that EB2 are GC before EB3. But at the same time I don't accept arguments from some EB2s that EB2s are smarter than EB3 and have the right to get GC at least 6 years ahead of EB3. Like every thing else in this unfair process , you are at the right place at the right time and you get it. Be happy for that. If you can't understand the frustration of some Eb3s, the minimum you could do is not show off. If some one has been around for a while and seen this process they would not be either surprised or jealous about EB2's current status.
2) It is sad to see this infighting. We are in a GC quagmire and there are no better solutions and most people are really frustrated and you can see that in the discussions. I see that the interest from active people in waning and probably justifiably so. You can see a pattern of decreasing interest from the peek (Jul last ear) . Most people are happy with EAD and Ac21 and some of the active folks got their GCs. Some of the most vocal, visible people on the forum has changed their tune soon after the last bulletin , just because their PD is current. It changes from "we all are in this together" to "You are on your own". Good luck to people in the queue to convince your brothers to be with you , if and when you walk the streets of DC :) :). They are at the doorsteps of being PR and are in a different group. If some of the posts are any indication, They think they are entitled to look down on you.
3) There was a post a while ago asking whether the core group is wasting their time. Most of the time I agree. Most of us here are just for our selfish sake , despite what most preach about cause , justice , fairness , principles etc. Some to go the extent of comparing this with great fights in their home country. It is far from it. Just one air GYGC.
4) we started loosing the unity the moment we forgot our main objective. "All immigrants are in this together" and this is not country specific. Instead of fighting together with others to capture lost visa numbers and exempt family members from the quota , we tried to snatch some numbers from our friends (ROW).(Not that I believe we could get the visa recapture this year) Now we are further divided between EB2I and EB3I with the same argument. I can give you another example of selfishness. Now that these guys have EAD and AP, they don't want concurrent filing , don't want premium processing for 140. Don't want any one else interfile with EB2. Just process my application without an interruption :):). I don't care if others done even get their H1 extended or get EAD. Where we are headed with this approach ?
What do we have in store :
Just hope the stars align for you and one day you will get yours. It will happen even if it takes 10 years. Live with it because you chose it.
Don't loose sleep over some one else getting GC ahead of you. Try to live your life.
Do what ever you can to better the situation. It depends on what you believe.
If you have 10 people with you in the struggle , don't count on them to be with you tomorrow.
if you are pissed off about some thing, went it by non-violent method. feels good. Blog , watch a comedy movie or do some thing that relaxes you.
Don't be surprised if your hopes are dashed.
At the end of the day getting GC is not indicative of your education, experience,capacity , knowledge , wisdom , usefulness to this country or the other way round. "GC is just what you have, not what you are ".
I must have ruffled some feathers. If your feathers are ruffled , please see my handle. :):)
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karthiknv143
09-28 02:35 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ace7ec20cfbd4110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D
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sparky_jones
09-23 04:20 PM
* is expected to move very slightly forward
* are expected to move slowly
* is expected to move very slowly
* is expected to remain unchanged
* to move very slowly forward
I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
Very well said. There was very little new information, yet the use of language makes it look like several new and significant facts are being disclosed. True hallmark of Washington DC!
* are expected to move slowly
* is expected to move very slowly
* is expected to remain unchanged
* to move very slowly forward
I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
Very well said. There was very little new information, yet the use of language makes it look like several new and significant facts are being disclosed. True hallmark of Washington DC!
h1techSlave
03-28 11:16 AM
You have predicted that EB3-India cut of date would become June 2003. But your PD is July 2003. Usually people do not predict that way. They predict their own PD would become current pretty soon.:D
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
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texcan
09-13 12:53 PM
Everyone,
It will be a great help for everyone, if you all update
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Information helps get a perspective to others who are reading it,
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Please Please Please update your signature and add it to posts.
It will be a great help for everyone, if you all update
case information in signature.
Information helps get a perspective to others who are reading it,
all info in one shot.
Please Please Please update your signature and add it to posts.
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sunny1000
07-09 12:26 AM
My analysis is minimally, if at all, dependent on India, China, ROW, ...
Offcourse I don't know all laws. I will believe DOS/USCIS URLs that explain how VB dates are set.
In general, it will be very useful to finds URLs that explain VB date setting and identify USCIS inconsistencies which they call LAW.
See below link...It has some explanation of the cut-off dates. I don't know if that helps. Also it has been noted the AC21 was intsrumental in re-capturing 131K visas which kept the dates current until 2005. Amazing!! We should hire the lobbying firm which worked on AC21:D
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html
Offcourse I don't know all laws. I will believe DOS/USCIS URLs that explain how VB dates are set.
In general, it will be very useful to finds URLs that explain VB date setting and identify USCIS inconsistencies which they call LAW.
See below link...It has some explanation of the cut-off dates. I don't know if that helps. Also it has been noted the AC21 was intsrumental in re-capturing 131K visas which kept the dates current until 2005. Amazing!! We should hire the lobbying firm which worked on AC21:D
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html
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Leo07
11-17 07:54 PM
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1,747 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
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1,747 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
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anilsal
12-11 10:57 PM
What about folks who say - "I will accept anything when it happens".
They will accept that the laws can change when they change.
They will accept that the laws can change when they change.
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makemygc
08-02 10:00 AM
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Bump
Just checking if anyone in this thread got his/her check encashed this morning.
Bump
Just checking if anyone in this thread got his/her check encashed this morning.
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GCStatus
09-14 03:03 PM
Let's make sure that this thread or http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21340 remains at the top "Recent forum posts" on IV homepage, so that more and more people can notice it and we can take a timely action. We might need some help from admin. to get this done. I see that "IV Forum login problems" thread is hardwired to remain at the top. We can do something similar for our thread.
Great idea Kary, I was thinking the same
Great idea Kary, I was thinking the same
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senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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PDOCT05
08-28 09:54 AM
I have only seen just one or two cases so far with receipts I mean filed on Jul 2. I myself am a Jul 2 filer NSC filer with TSC approved 140 and haven't gotten anything yet....I also had the LUd on 7/28/07.
I have counted my self from diff forums and seen around 10+ cases who got their RN's.
I have counted my self from diff forums and seen around 10+ cases who got their RN's.
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EB2_Jun03_dude
11-28 07:49 PM
PD: EB2 India - Jun03
I140 approved: Nov 05
I-485 applied: Jun 05
FP1: Jul 05
FP2: May 07
AC21: Job changed twice (Jun 06 and Apr 07). Sent EVL to USCIS both times with 'same job description' but 'different job title'.
AC21: Job changed twice (Jun 06 and Apr 07). Sent EVL to USCIS both times with 'same job description' but 'different job title'.
This morning I received USCIS email alert for both my wife and I.
My I-485 application got a RFE. "We mailed you a notice requesting additional evidence". Will have to wait for the formal letter for the details.
My wife's I-485 application however was transferred to Newark NJ for interview. "This case has been sent for a standard interview."
I have a ton of questions at this stage. here are few in you gurus can help me while I am waiting for the RFE letter.
1) Will the RFE letter be mailed to me or my attorney ? what has been ur experience? do you get it in one week ?
2) why USCIS has split the processing of my I-485 and my wife's I-485. Her I-485 is transfered to Newark, NJ while mine is pending at TSC (now waiting for RFE response).
3) How much time will I have to respond to the RFE? Based on the new guidelines (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_timrfe.html) , I expect that to be stated in the RFE letter.
thanks in advance.
I140 approved: Nov 05
I-485 applied: Jun 05
FP1: Jul 05
FP2: May 07
AC21: Job changed twice (Jun 06 and Apr 07). Sent EVL to USCIS both times with 'same job description' but 'different job title'.
AC21: Job changed twice (Jun 06 and Apr 07). Sent EVL to USCIS both times with 'same job description' but 'different job title'.
This morning I received USCIS email alert for both my wife and I.
My I-485 application got a RFE. "We mailed you a notice requesting additional evidence". Will have to wait for the formal letter for the details.
My wife's I-485 application however was transferred to Newark NJ for interview. "This case has been sent for a standard interview."
I have a ton of questions at this stage. here are few in you gurus can help me while I am waiting for the RFE letter.
1) Will the RFE letter be mailed to me or my attorney ? what has been ur experience? do you get it in one week ?
2) why USCIS has split the processing of my I-485 and my wife's I-485. Her I-485 is transfered to Newark, NJ while mine is pending at TSC (now waiting for RFE response).
3) How much time will I have to respond to the RFE? Based on the new guidelines (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_timrfe.html) , I expect that to be stated in the RFE letter.
thanks in advance.
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Pineapple
10-26 11:55 AM
Thanks for clarifying. At first glance, the points you propose seem eminently reasonable and cannot be disputed. However, the real issue here is not what we "should" but what we "can".
Re contacting NumbersUSA and FAIRUS, do go ahead but I'm certain there is no chance of them holding hands with us and singing 'Kumbaya'. The discussions and postings on those sites look like they have been written up by "Ed Anger" of the World World News :D
And re toning down immigration bills to our advantage, you have to recognize that the primary issue is not that a bill will be passed which will not be optimal - the issue is whether any bill will be passed at all.
Hi Pineapple,
That is my favorite fruit !
Very simple.
1. We should focus our resources and lobbying efforts to tone down immigration bills on our behalf. Spending our money to go there and put one more soul to say to Sen. Specter "vote for this bill" does not cut it.
2. We should use our lobbying resources and connections to contact decision makers from NumberUSA, FAIRUS.org and other major organizations and communicate our plans. We should clearly adopt a position against any bill which supports amnesty and offer a sensible, reasonable and fair quantitative increase in Employment Visa numbers. An example of reasonable proposals would be temporary increase of visa numbers, elimination of visa lottery and reallocation of visa numbes to EB, visa number recapture.
Thanks for asking.
The Ombdusman
Re contacting NumbersUSA and FAIRUS, do go ahead but I'm certain there is no chance of them holding hands with us and singing 'Kumbaya'. The discussions and postings on those sites look like they have been written up by "Ed Anger" of the World World News :D
And re toning down immigration bills to our advantage, you have to recognize that the primary issue is not that a bill will be passed which will not be optimal - the issue is whether any bill will be passed at all.
Hi Pineapple,
That is my favorite fruit !
Very simple.
1. We should focus our resources and lobbying efforts to tone down immigration bills on our behalf. Spending our money to go there and put one more soul to say to Sen. Specter "vote for this bill" does not cut it.
2. We should use our lobbying resources and connections to contact decision makers from NumberUSA, FAIRUS.org and other major organizations and communicate our plans. We should clearly adopt a position against any bill which supports amnesty and offer a sensible, reasonable and fair quantitative increase in Employment Visa numbers. An example of reasonable proposals would be temporary increase of visa numbers, elimination of visa lottery and reallocation of visa numbes to EB, visa number recapture.
Thanks for asking.
The Ombdusman
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buddyinsd
08-23 01:05 PM
Thanks for sharing this...But I've not yet applied for my EAD renewal...
My wife got a soft LUD on 8/21. She has PD of Dec 2005 EB2 (I). I wa shappy to see some activity but then i saw the following thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum5-all-other-green-card-issues/1599851-ead-renewal-but-i-485-update.html#post1981520) . It looks like some got the soft LUD on their 485 but their EAD was in process and same is the case wiht my wife. She applied for EAD renewal last month.
My wife got a soft LUD on 8/21. She has PD of Dec 2005 EB2 (I). I wa shappy to see some activity but then i saw the following thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum5-all-other-green-card-issues/1599851-ead-renewal-but-i-485-update.html#post1981520) . It looks like some got the soft LUD on their 485 but their EAD was in process and same is the case wiht my wife. She applied for EAD renewal last month.
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Venky Sreedhar
02-26 03:13 PM
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Feb 23, 2011 Payment To Immigration Voice Completed ... -$100.00 USD
Unforunately I will not be able to attend because of a surgery.
Good luck with all your efforts and I am sure we will be able to achieve something positive.
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Unforunately I will not be able to attend because of a surgery.
Good luck with all your efforts and I am sure we will be able to achieve something positive.
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 01:17 PM
First step - Gather information and strengthen the support. Once we reach a ballpark, arrange meetings, conference calls
Finalise a lawyer ( MadhUVJ - has great suggestions on it )
Preparing an Action Plan, will be out soon.
Man-Woman-GC is gathering details.
Please join us in this effort
Folks...nothing is going to be feasible unless we have enough numbers beind us....so our sole action item for now should be to get 1000 people to pledge to this effort...one we are 1000 strong....things will start falling into place....I am sure there will be a number of attorney's who will be willing to help us spend 100 grand...;-)
Finalise a lawyer ( MadhUVJ - has great suggestions on it )
Preparing an Action Plan, will be out soon.
Man-Woman-GC is gathering details.
Please join us in this effort
Folks...nothing is going to be feasible unless we have enough numbers beind us....so our sole action item for now should be to get 1000 people to pledge to this effort...one we are 1000 strong....things will start falling into place....I am sure there will be a number of attorney's who will be willing to help us spend 100 grand...;-)
sertasheep
05-05 06:35 AM
Most of us can relate to the discomfiture and concerns that our members have. Hang in there, I often listen to either Natasha Bedingfield's "Unwritten" to find inspiration (or Shahrukh's Kal Ho Na Ho title song). Find inspiration in something, direct your energies towards something positive, and your quality of life will get enhanced even amidst duress. Write about your experiences, share your grief, and make your voice heard via the various media efforts at IV.
immigration07
05-02 03:02 PM
in contributions and in any thing else... I started contributing even before lot of people here heard about IV.
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